孟晚舟女士聽證會文字實錄_風聞
多动症孩童没有爱-2018-12-09 00:27
加拿大孟晚舟法庭現場温哥華星報記者實錄
全程轉發當地媒體的現場記錄並翻譯。
新聞來源，加拿大方面的温哥華星報，這位記者和她的幾位同事在今天法庭現場做了文字直播。
庭審剛剛暫時結束，晚上她和她的同事還會有更多細節提供。對一些有趣的地方簡單翻譯一下
Defense tells judge MengWanzhou now has two valid passports: one Mainland China passport and one Hong Kong passport.
She has a number of expired passports (unclear if from other countries).
Meng was formerly a permanent resident of Canada, but this expired in 2009.
孟的律師告訴法官，孟持有一本中國大陸護照，一本香港護照，以及若干其它過期護照；她曾經是加拿大永久居民，但這個身份2009年過期了。
MengWanzhou lawyer submits “typical family photos” as exhibits showing multiple visits to Vancouver and family home showing “consistent involvement of family in Vancouver life.”
“Here in a park… I haven’t pointed Meng in everyone one of them but she’s there…”
孟的律師出示許多家庭照片證實孟常年在温哥華有着家庭生活。
Multi-pronged argument from defense, who just said Meng has a completely clean criminal record at 46 years old.
He also says she has complex health issues such as high blood pressure and sleep apnea.
She is also prepared to give up two valid passports including one HK passport.
孟德律師表示孟身體不太好，有高血壓和睡眠問題。她準備放棄她的兩本有效護照，包括香港護照。
Defense said MengWanzhou had permanent resident status in Canada but had relinquished that status.
Said she first visited Vancouver 15 years ago and PR status expired in 2009.
She had a BC care card, ID and social insurance number.
孟的律師表明孟有加拿大永久居民身份但是已經放棄了。她15年前訪問了温哥華，她的永久居民身份在2009年過期了。
Interesting that crown lawyer said in court that MengWanzhou made “no trips (to the US) since March 2017”, even though she used to visit frequently and she has a son attending school in Boston.
Imagining that reporter colleagues in US will be seeking him out now.
律師説孟從2017年3月後就沒有哪個訪問過美國了；儘管過去她曾經很頻繁的訪問美國，而且她兒子在美國波士頓上學。
MengWanzhou lawyer says Meng and her husband purchased a home at 4005 W 28th Ave in Vancouver’s Dunbar neighbourhood at one point.
Her husband and her have a 10 year old daughter together, she has three sons, 14, 16 and 20 from a previous marriage.
孟的律師説她和她老公在温哥華買了一個房子，他們一共有四個孩子，一個女兒，三個兒子。分別為10，14，16，20歲。
In 2013, Reuters found that Meng served on the board of Skycom Tech, a company that offered to sell HP equipment to Iran.
Can someone help dig up link to that article? Bit busy here.
Attorney general’s lawyer alleges Huawei used an unofficial subsidiary, SkyCom, to facilitate transactions with Iran, which is against sanctions.
MengWanzhou had also denied the link between the entities when questioned by banks and “this is the alleged fraud”.
Lawyer says Reuters broke a story describing how Huawei controlled Skycom (which allegedly imported US manufacturing equipment into Iran).
Meng personally denied to US banks and said Huawei engagement with SkyCom is normal business cooperation, and this is the crux of “fraud”.
孟，華為，Skycom，惠普打印機，以及伊朗的關係。孟方對華為控制的Skycom與伊朗的這些事情表示否認，認為是正常的商業操作。
Main arguments from lawyer against granting MengWanzhou bail:
1) No connection to this jurisdiction
2) Access to vast resources and connections
3) Pattern of avoiding the US after she was aware of criminal investigations. Huawei
目前法庭方面拒絕主要保釋的三點主要理由，其中之一是她在知道有針對她的犯罪調查後已經表現出來要避開美國（2017年3月後不再訪問美國，儘管過去頻頻訪問）。
Lawyer for attorney general says in court the extradition request from US is for fraud offenses.
This confirms unverified reports that this is the case. Huawei MengWanzhou there is an arrest warrant from the US.
法庭方面表示美國方面的引渡請求是關於fraud offense。
Defense now continually building up image of MengWanzhou as someone who devoted her life to her company, Huawei, since joining 25 years ago as a secretary.
She’s proud of the company’s success ($92 billion gross revenue in 2017). Martin said she wouldn’t throw this away.
孟的律師試圖告知大家孟奉獻了她的整個人生給華為。她為華為而驕傲。
Defense: “She would not ever breach a court order … would be to humiliate and embarrass her father whom she loves.
It would humiliate and embarrass Huawei .. with its 180,000 employees around the world and given her prominence in China, she would not embarrass China itself.”
Wow, Meng’s defense lawyer David Martin just explained the doctrine of “face” in Chinese culture to the judge to argue that MengWanzhou wouldn’t skip bail because she wouldn’t want to “embarrass her father whom she loves,” and given her prominence, embarrass China as a whole.
孟方希望獲得保釋，並表示由於中國人的面子問題，她不會逃跑，因為她愛她的父親。她不會讓她的父親難堪，考慮到她在中國的地位，她不會讓中國難堪。
Judge says he will think about the proposed bail conditions over the weekend.MengWanzhou defense will go into detail about the proposals on Monday.
Court will adjourn at 10 am PST.Defense says he’s run out of time today.Judge requests a plan of what kind of bail conditions he is proposing.
Martin hands over document with 12 conditions including stay at home, curfew,surrender all passports,risk mgmt, GPS, physical surveillance, consent to RCMP checks.
案子今天無法完全結束。週一還會再開庭。
（翻頁還有補充）
檢控官在法庭上披露，針對孟晚舟的逮捕令是在今年8月22日，在紐約簽發。孟晚舟於12月1日在温哥華被捕，當時她從香港經温哥華前往墨西哥。
孟的律師表示，她2009年就離開了sky董事會，sky並不是華為子公司。而sky在波斯賣設備是2010年的事情，而且是合規的設備。
律師申請加拿大法庭允許她取保候審，稱她絕不會逃跑，不會令父親、公司和國家難堪。她是中國公民，不該被引渡至美國。
律師還表示，她從2017年4月之後就沒有去過美國，雖然兒子在波士頓上學。由於家人住在温哥華，她每年都會定期去加拿大。
而美國方面表示，她故意隱瞞sky是子公司的事實，公開誤導稱sky是獨立公司，涉嫌欺詐。
美國方面要求加拿大法庭繼續關押她，稱如果她被引渡到美國並被定罪，面臨至多30年監禁，因此她有可能逃跑。
控方反對孟晚舟被保釋的主要觀點在於：
1）與該司法管轄區無關
2）“曾獲取大量資源和關係”
3）在瞭解到犯罪調查事件後，刻意避開美國的方式。
控方指控：孟晚舟存在一種“不誠實”和“欺騙”的行為。其父親淨資產高達32億美元，而她的家在中國，沒有加拿大或美國的引渡條約。
控方的描述非常徹底，他列出了所有要點並進行更為詳細的解説，此次保釋聽證會時間遠比普通的保釋聽證會長得多。
辯方律師David Matin出場。建議保釋金為1400萬加幣。
此人是引渡法方面的法律專家，他曾作為法律專家出現於高山案中。網傳他曾賴昌星的辯護律師的説法是錯誤的，賴的律師為David Matas。
聽證會上，孟晚舟的律師則辯稱她為何值得信賴，且“永遠不會違反法令”， “因為這事關尊嚴和自尊”，“一切高調的舉動，都不會令華為或中國蒙羞”。
（整理自豆瓣、超級大本營軍事論壇等）