QA:柬埔寨人如何看待越南人?_風聞
龙腾网-2020-06-01 18:01
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正文原創翻譯:
How do Cambodians view Vietnamese?
柬埔寨人如何看待越南人?

評論翻譯
Anonymous
We hate Vietnam and Vietnamese Why do we hate Vietnamese?The Vietnamese have absolutely no respect towards us. They make fun of our language and culture. Khmer Krom, the indigenous people, rightful owner of South Vietnam live in constant discrimination by the Vietnamese. They are second class citizens in their own ancestral land.
我們討厭越南和越南人。為什麼我們會討厭越南人?因為越南人完全不尊重我們,他們拿我們的語言和文化開玩笑,他們取笑我們的語言和文化。高棉人,原住民這些越南南部原本的合法主人,卻一直生活在越南人的歧視中。他們在自己祖先的土地上是二等公民。
The Vietnam is the most aggressive country in Asia. Before it was only a tiny place in the South China. After independence from China, this aggressive country has never stopped expanding and antagonizing its neighborsToday Vietnam had exterminated Champa country and took half of Cambodia. Vietnamese constantly move their borders further into Cambodian territory
越南是亞洲最具侵略性的國家。之前,它只是中國南部的一個小地方。後來從中國獨立後,這個侵略性很強的國家從未停止過擴張和侵略鄰國的腳步,如今的越南已經滅掉了佔婆國,佔領了半個柬埔寨。而且越南人正不斷地將邊界進一步移至柬埔寨境內
Vietnam is a country formed by invading other people’s land! Vietnamese do not feel sorry for it, they shamelessly portray their country as an innocent thing. They shamelessly look down on Cambodia and belittle Cambodians. Our ancestors created a beautiful civilization, but you won’’t be surprised to hear many Vietnamese belittle Khmer people, say we lack intelligence, make fun of our language and culture. How is it possible for us to like Vietnamese?
越南是一個通過侵略他國土地而形成的國家! 越南人並不為此覺得丟臉,他們無恥地把自己的國家描繪成一個無辜的國家。他們無恥地看不起柬埔寨,貶低柬埔寨人。我們的祖先創造了一個美麗的文明,但如果你看到很多越南人經常貶低高棉人,罵我們智商欠費,嘲笑我們的語言和文化,你並不會感到驚訝。所以我們怎麼可能喜歡越南人呢?
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Regarding the Khmer Rouge period, keep in mind that the Ho Chi Minh trail ended in Cambodia’s sovereign territory. As the war escalated, these foreign Vietnamese troops further pushed into the Cambodian countryside away from the Cambodian-Viet border. With them came more bombings, more fighting, and a foreign authority. Though they toppled the Khmer Rouge, the subsequent occupation was another period of Vietnamese occupation from their perspective. Hanoi did not plan it as an humanitarian mission. The aim was removing a defiant Pol Pot who had invaded Vietnamese territory and refused to work with the Vietnamese SRV government. The Vietnamese would occupy Cambodia for the next decade.
關於紅色高棉時期,請記住,胡志明路線在柬埔寨的主權領土上結束了。隨着戰爭的升級,這些外國的越南軍隊進一步推進到柬埔寨農村,深入柬越邊境。伴隨着他們的是更多的轟炸,更多的戰鬥,以及外國當局的干涉。雖然他們推翻了紅色高棉,但從柬埔寨人的角度來看,隨後又是另一個越南佔領的時期。河內並沒有把它作為一個人道主義任務來執行。其目的是為了趕走一個入侵越南領土,並拒絕與越南政府合作的挑釁者波爾布特。越南人將在未來十年內佔領柬埔寨。
Beyond that Vietnamese can often have a patronizing view of the Khmer and Lao . It’s not uncommon to hear some Vietnamese talk idyllically about a new Indochina federation. For them the idea sounds wise and natural. Their vision is of a bigger political space, once again guided by Vietnam. For Khmer, this sounds like the return to yet another era of Vietnamese political domination.
除此以外,越南人對高棉人和老撾人往往會抱有一種畸形的看法。常常聽到一些越南人田園詩般地談論新的印度支那聯邦。對他們來説,這個想法聽起來很明智,也很自然。他們的願景是一個更廣闊的政治空間,再次以越南為領導核心。對高棉人來説,這聽起來像是越南另一個政治統治時代的迴歸。
Văn Hưng Trần
In my opinion, Cambodians view Vietnamese varies depend on who you ask the question and whether he/she is open-mind or not. For most of cambodians don’’t have any any close relationship with vietnamese, they think vietnamese are wicked and a bit evil, they are afraid vietnamese will do harm to cambodia, like a brain wash story they have been told: the vietnamese’’s ancestors took the land of khmer’’s ancestors. The same thing happen to some cambodians who deal business with vietnamese. They fear vietnamese will steal their jobs, their business model…., and chinese is less harmful.
在我看來,柬埔寨人對越南人的看法是不一樣的,這取決於你問的人是誰,以及這個人是否有開放的心態。大多數柬埔寨人與越南人沒有任何密切的聯繫,他們認為越南人是壞人,有點邪惡,他們害怕越南人對柬埔寨造成傷害,就像他們聽過的洗腦故事那樣:越南人的祖先奪走了高棉人祖先的土地。同樣的事情也發生在一些與越南人做生意的柬埔寨人身上。他們擔心越南人會搶走他們的工作,搶走他們的商業模式,而中國人的危險性相對小得多。
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Joey
There is some interesting parallels between Sino-Vietnamese relations and Viet-Cambodian Relations, both have to do with the bigger power forcing their culture on the weaker one and taking land.
中越關係和越柬關係有一些有趣的相似之處,都與大國強行將自己的文化強加於弱國,搶奪土地有關。
Ask a Cambodian:
Is the Mekong Delta originally Cambodian Land?
I would suspect everyone would say yes, and they will go on for days about how it was stolen by the “filthy” Vietnamese.
問一個柬埔寨人。湄公河三角洲原來是柬埔寨的土地嗎?我猜想大家都會説:是的。而且他們會説上好幾天,那是被 “骯髒的 “越南人偷走的。
Ask a Vietnamese:Are some parts of Yunnan, Guangxi and Guangdong a part of Vietnam?
Considering the timeline for Sino-Vietnamese hostilities is much longer, I would suspect not everyone would say yes. A very clear majority would say that land was stolen by the “Filthy” Chinese.
問一個越南人。雲南,廣西和廣東的部分地區是否曾是越南的一部分?考慮到中越敵對關係的時間線要長得多,我懷疑並不是所有人都會説是的。但很明顯,大多數人都會説土地是被 “骯髒 “的中國人搶走了。
That’s actually really quite similar to how the Chinese viewed the Southern tribes before their assimilation.This feeling of hatred will continue to persist, historical issues aren’t easy to patch up without modernization and economic interdependence. Don’t worry however, do French and German people hate each other? Germany again and again plunged France into decades of brutal war over and over again, even decades after WWII they still had ill-feeling towards each other, but as France and Germany modernized, this hatred began to die off.I suspect that will happen in terms of Cambodia-Vietnam and China-Vietnam some time in the future.
這其實和中國人看待被同化前的南方部落的看法很相似,這種仇恨的感覺會一直持續下去,沒有了現代化和經濟上的相互依存,歷史問題不是那麼容易彌補的。不過不用擔心,法國人和德國人之間現在會互相仇恨嗎?德國曾經一次又一次讓法國陷入幾十年的殘酷戰爭,甚至在二戰後的幾十年裏,他們對彼此的仇恨依然存在,但隨着法國和德國的現代化,這種仇恨開始逐漸消亡。
Stephane Mahieu
While travelling in Cambodia about 10 years ago, I was surprised by how casually many would mention how evil is Vietnam. Usually it goes this way :
- Vietnamese army had invaded us many times in the past
- They stole the Mekong Delta and Saigon from us
- Now they’’re taking our lands and bring criminality
- etc, etc…
大約十年前在柬埔寨旅遊時,我很驚訝於很多人都會很隨意地提到,越南有多麼的邪惡。通常都是這樣説的。
- 過去越南軍隊曾多次入侵我們的家園
- 他們從我們手中搶走了湄公河三角洲和西貢的土地
- 現在他們還在搶走我們的土地,並把犯罪行為帶到了我們的地盤上。
等等,等等
Looking at their history, no wonder there’’s some resentment. Part of actual Vietnam used to be Khmer and even most of actual Cambodia has been under vietnamese colonial rule.
And yet a bit of admiration too. “Soon Vietnam will be as develloped as Japan” told me once a very uninformed young man. . So basically Vietnam is as popular in Cambodia than China in Vietnam.
看看他們的歷史,也難怪會有一些怨恨。實際上越南的一部分地區曾經是高棉人的,甚至柬埔寨的大部分地區也在越南的殖民統治下。但他們也有一些欽佩越南,“很快越南就會像日本一樣發達了”,有一次,一個不知情的年輕人曾對我説,“很快越南就會像日本一樣發達” 。所以基本上越南在柬埔寨,相比中國在越南更受歡迎。
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Trinh Nguyen
Ok not sure if I am qualified to answer this question but will try my best. From what I know, they do not like Vietnamese and hate Vietnamese just like how some Vietnamese hate Chinese and some Chinese hate Japanese. I once knew this one guy who is nguoi Cham so not sure if he counts as Cambodian but he once said this one phrase to me that still bothers me to this day. He said “ Vietnamese tried to commit genecide towards us!” I was dumbfounded and did not know anything about it. However, what I found funny was that he was dating a Vietnamese girl too but not sure if they ever got married or not. so I guess not all Cambodians hate Vietnamese as some still intermarry. I think everything is in the past now so I hope we can all move forward and stop with all of the hate.
好吧,不知道我是否有資格回答這個問題,但我會盡力而為。據我所知,他們不喜歡越南人,討厭越南人,就像有些越南人討厭中國人,有些中國人討厭日本人一樣。我曾經認識一個傢伙,他是佔族,所以不知道他是否算作柬埔寨人,他曾經對我説過一句話,至今仍讓我很困擾。他説:“越南人試圖對我們進行種族滅絕!” 我當時聽得目瞪口呆,對此一無所知。不過,我覺得有趣的是,他也和一個越南女孩約會,但不知道後來他們有沒有結婚。所以我想不是所有的柬埔寨人都討厭越南人,因為有些人還在通婚。我想一切都已經過去了,所以我希望我們都能向前看,不要再去在記着這些仇恨了。
Robert Nguyen
As expected! The memory is to fresh! Not long ago the whole South VN was part of Cambodia. I think it is bigger than the current Cambodia. Well, that is human history and behavior: conquering and conquering when you can. The Cambodians owe a lot to the French. Without them, I think Cambodia would be no more, for that matter, no more Laos. There would be now just Vietnam. Khmer empire with Angkor Watt was a powerful and huge country. Vietnam used to be a tiny country around Hanoi. The up and down of the history.
不出所料!記憶猶新! 在不久以前,整個南越南還是柬埔寨的一部分。我記得過去的柬埔寨比現在的柬埔寨要大的多。嗯,這就是人類的歷史和行為:能征服就征服。柬埔寨人欠法國人很多。如果沒有他們,我想柬埔寨就不存在了,老撾也不會有了,現在就只剩下越南。高棉帝國與吳哥王朝曾是一個強大而龐大的國家。而越南曾經是一個圍繞着河內的小國。歷史上的風水輪流轉。
Anonymous
We hate Vietnamese.
Vietnam did nothing but harm to Cambodia, stole and looted and took our land away from us. Hypocrites know nothing else but to cry when they got some small islands taken away from them by China but they don’t have a word in the world about Khmer Krom.
I hope Vietnam gets bombed to dust and we can take back what is ours.
我們討厭越南人。越南除了對柬埔寨造成傷害外,什麼也沒做,只知道偷竊和掠奪,把我們的土地奪走。越南的偽君子們什麼都不知道,只知道被中國搶走了一些小島後就哭鼻子,但他們對高棉的事卻不聞不問。我希望越南被炸成灰燼,希望我們可以奪回屬於我們的東西。