第五代隱形戰鬥機F-22、SU-57、J-20的對比_風聞

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正文原創翻譯：

Russian fighter jet the Sukhoi Su-57 (Сухой Су-57).The Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor is the fifth generation fighter aircraft for the United States Air Force (USAF)

The Sukhoi Su-57 is a Russian 5th generation jet fighter being developed for Russian Air Force.The Chengdu J-20 is a single-seat, stealth and fifth-generation jet fighter developed for the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF).

在這個視頻中，我們將向您呈現比較美國最好的戰鬥機F-22猛禽戰鬥機，中國最好的成都J-20戰鬥機和俄羅斯最好的戰鬥機蘇霍伊Su-57戰鬥機。洛克希德馬丁公司的F-22猛禽戰鬥機是美國空軍的第五代戰鬥機，蘇霍伊Su-57是俄羅斯正在為俄羅斯空軍開發的第五代噴氣式戰鬥機，成都J-20是一種為人民解放軍空軍研發的第五代單座、隱形噴氣式戰鬥機。

評論翻譯

Tom B

Bullock carts still the best..

牛車仍然是最好的…… 0

Ben622

India has to sell all their mangoes so they can rent 5th generation toilet paper

印度必須賣掉所有的芒果才能租到第五代衞生紙。 0

Goog Le

Omg~ you are such a troll. Lol~

天啊，你真是個魔鬼，哈哈。 0

NISCHAL FF

Because Indian cant make fither jet

因為印度造不出第五代噴氣式飛機。 0

Hurt each other Macon

Indian motorcycles can blow up everything in the world. These airplanes are rubbish. India is number one.

印度摩托車可以炸燬世界上的一切，這些飛機都是垃圾。印度是第一。 0

Hurt each other Macon

@KAI THE INVINCIBLE Yes, China has many copycat products. You have the ability to copy a plane from India to take a look. You need to ask others to sell your rifles and bullets to your country and have the right to speak of others? Apart from producing rapists and caste discrimination, what can you have to be happy about? By the way, can the toilet paper for the toilet be produced? A people who wipe their buttocks with their hands even shit, so embarrassed to talk about others?

是的，中國有很多山寨產品。你們印度有能力山寨一架飛機來看看。你們國家甚至需要從別的國家買步槍和子彈，還有權利談論別人嗎？除了製造強姦犯和種姓歧視，你們還有什麼值得高興的呢？順便問一下，廁所用的衞生紙你們能生產出來嗎？一個大便都用手擦屁股的國家，卻好意思談論別的國家? 0

yangtian wang

F22 is old mama, J20 and Su57 new stars

F-22是老媽媽, J-20和Su-57是新星。 0

devi baskaranr

yeah but f 22 has the best air superiority capabilities than any fighter jet in planet. proving that old is gold.

是的。但是F-22仍然擁有比地球上任何戰鬥機都更好的空中優勢能力。證明老東西像金子般珍貴。 0

Arno Van Wyk

Think about it this way.The F22 is old and that means it is due for replacement with a 6th Gen, while the Russians and Chinese still battle to get a 5th Gen out the gate.

應該這樣思考。F-22是舊的，這意味着它將被第6代戰鬥機替換，而俄羅斯和中國仍在用才開始獲得的第5代戰鬥機戰鬥。 0

Killerx3k

Nothing of originality and quality has come from China since gunpowder

自發明火藥以來，中國沒有任何原創和質量優質的東西。 0

Al96

America does have the longest history and experience so it’s no surprise

美國（在戰鬥機方面）確實擁有最悠久的歷史和經驗，所以這並不奇怪。 0

Andrew Morris

In that case the Raptor is the best. It has seen (limited) combat and the others haven’t.

從這方面來説，猛禽（F-22）是最好的。它經歷過有限的戰鬥，而其他的戰機沒有。 0

kevin gu

HEY， F-22 RCS is almost 0.1m2

F-22的雷達橫截面大概是0.1平米。 0

El Draque

You’re basing your opinion on something you can’t possibly know? You’ll never know or be told the RCS of any aircraft ever? What you think you know does not relate to anything as these details are obviously all kept top secret.All anyone can do if they want an opinion, is firstly to understand that above? (You do not know the RCS) but then also only use what they really do know, to form an opinion, right? Otherwise, it’s an opinion based on stupidity from it’s beginning? So now you know that? If you still want an opinion? A worthwhile opinion? Then logically you must look at what each aircraft offers in terms of technologies, avionics, radar, and threat value?

你把你的觀點建立在你不可能知道的事情上了，你永遠不會知道或被告知任何飛機的雷達橫截面積。你以為你知道的與實際情況是兩回事，因為這些細節顯然都是絕密的。如果任何人想要發表意見，他們所能做的就是首先明白這一點。你實際上不知道雷達橫截面積的大小，你僅僅只是用你知道的提出一種觀點，對吧？這個觀點從一開始就是愚蠢的，不是嗎？ 0

Obviously we must start by working out, who (what aircraft) can see who (enemy aircraft) and from how far? For example the SU-57 And both the F-22 and the F-35? (I’ve grouped both the F-22/35 together, as you’ll see, there’s no need to look at them separately) Well this is where we start with only going on everything we really do know and not allowing ourselves to become bias at any stage? So let’s look? Both the F-22 and F-35 can’t see any other stealth aircraft from BVR (beyond visual range)? Stealth alone defeats high-frequency (short wave) radar by absorption and deflection, it does not defeat low-frequency (long wave) radar. Therefore, to see, track, and target stealth aircraft you must have long-wave radar. But it must also be enhanced to remove all background clutter for targeting purposes.This we all do know. 

現在你知道了吧，如果你還想聽聽意見，提出一個有價值的觀點。那麼邏輯上你必須從每架飛機的技術、航空電子設備、雷達和威脅值評估方面考慮。顯然，我們必須從計算開始，誰（什麼飛機）可以看到誰（敵機），從多遠的地方看到？比如Su-57、F-22和F-35（你可以看到我已經把這兩架F-22/35組合在一起分析了，沒有必要分別研究它們）。

這就是我們開始只做我們真正知道的事情並且不允許自己在任何階段產生偏見的地方。所以讓我們比較一下。F-22和F-35都不能從超視距看到任何其他隱形飛機嗎？隱形飛機單靠吸收（雷達波）和設計偏角的隱身性能就能躲過高頻（短波）雷達，而不能躲過低頻（長波）雷達。因此，要看到、跟蹤和瞄準隱形飛機，你必須擁有長波雷達。 0

Both the AN/APG 77 radar used in the F-22, and the AN/APG-81 radar used in the F-35, can’t see any other stealth aircraft from BVR? (without enhanced long wave Radar) — This is a fact the US Air force obviously know! So it seems the reality is? That when the F-35 radars were being designed 13 years ago, there were no other stealth aircraft to think about as a threat? So that leads us to the next question? How can these aircraft be seen as any sort of threat to either China or Russia? Who technically have these aircraft beaten? They can see and target the US jets from BVR, yet as we now do know for sure, the US jets can’t see them from BVR?How do we know this? By understanding what new technologies we have seen? Like knowing this? 

但要達到瞄準目標的目的也必須加強其性能，以消除所有背景雜波。這一點我們都知道。F-22使用的AN/APG 77雷達和F-35使用的AN/APG-81雷達都不能從超視距地看到任何其他隱形飛機（沒有增強型長波雷達），這是一個事實，美國空軍顯然知道！所以事實似乎是這樣的。13年前設計F-35的雷達時，沒有其他隱形飛機可以被考慮作為一種有威脅的戰機，這就引出了下一個問題？ 0

Russia’s new ‘‘5th generation’’ Byelka (2band) radar, used in SU-57 does have enhanced long-wave radar, they’ve designed and developed the first L-Band fighter radar we’ve ever seen. They’ve cleverly embedded L-band AESA radars in the leading edges of the wings. The new L-band AESA radar data gets processed in real time through extremely powerful Russian Elbrus computers being significantly enhanced removing all clutter, meaning it can see, track, target, and engage enemy stealth aircraft from BVR.

F-22和F-35會被視為對中國或俄羅斯的威脅嗎？誰在技術上能打敗這些飛機？他們可以在超視距看到並瞄準美軍戰機，但我們現在可以肯定的是，美軍戰機超視距看不到他們。俄羅斯在Su-57上使用的新型“第五代”貝爾卡(2波段)雷達確實增強了長波雷達，他們設計並開發了我們所見過的第一架L波段戰鬥機雷達。

他們巧妙地將L波段有源相控陣雷達嵌入機翼的前沿。新的L-波段有源相控陣雷達數據通過顯著增強的強大的俄羅斯Elbrus計算機實時處理，消除所有雜波，這意味着它可以看到、跟蹤目標，並超視距地鎖定敵人的隱形飛機。 0

llamu dos

Nobody will know the true RCS that either the f-35 or f-22 actually is, as it is variable and dependent on many factors (Altitude, speed, weather condition). Both jets can also change their RCS shape in flight with devices installed on the wings. The slower the jets fly the less ability they have to be spotted. Flying high speed at high altitude will damage the RAM coating on the jet.f-22 rcs has been quoted to be 0.0001m2 for some time and i first saw it mentioned on a Pakistani Military website which listed known AESA RADARS detection ranges with RCS signatures of each jet (estimated)

沒有人知道F-35和F-22真正的雷達橫截面積是多少，因為這是可變的，取決於許多因素（高度、速度、天氣條件）。兩架飛機也可以通過在機翼上安裝的裝置改變其雷達橫截面的形狀。噴氣機飛得越慢，被發現的可能就越低。在高空高速飛行會破壞飛機上的塗層。

F-22的雷達橫截面積被引證為0.0001平米已經有一段時間了，我第一次看到這一數據是在巴基斯坦的一個軍事網站上，上面列出了已知的有源相控陣雷達探測距離以及每架飛機的雷達橫截面積特徵（估計值）。 0

f-35 rcs has been quoted to be 0.001m2 (but is now apparantly more stealthier in the front view than the f-22 as radar absorbing materials have improved) I have also heard that this is also before the f-35 & f22 has the Radar absorbing material sprayed on although not confirmed how true this i do not know.Its also been mentioned that all attempts so far to verify both USA stealth jets true RCS is made even harder to determine as both jets use a device that actually masks the true RCS signatures on the wings and the device is only switched off when in flight away from any potential radar stations. su-57 RCS is reported to be over 0.5 -2.m2 in the front view and easily seen by an AN/APG 77 or AN/APG81 radar.China state that j20 is 0.001m2 although this has been questioned by many countries including USA as the j20 fighter jet has some less than stealthy attributes (Tail fins, Rivetted section in the frx, Canards which will make it show up easily on a Mechanical or Aesa Radar and is significantly larger than ths su57 in reality according to experts)AN/APG77 and 81 has more transmitters, recievers and has more known power than any other fighter jet radar on the planet so will have the advantage against any other jet other than an AWACs (even then the f-35 and f-22 has an extensive suite of EW that that send a jamming pulse back to an AWACs making detection harder. MALD also would make life extremely difficult for any jet or SAM to get a lock.

F-35的雷達橫截面積被引證為0.001平米，但由於雷達吸波材料的改進，F-35的正視圖顯然比F-22更隱蔽（更小）。

我也聽説過一種説法，這個數據是在F-35和F-22噴上雷達吸波材料之前的數據，雖然這個説法的真實性沒有被證實，我也不知道真假。還有説法也提到，因為美國隱形戰機在機翼上都使用了一種設備，這種設備可以隱藏真實的信號，這使得要驗證其雷達橫截面積的所有嘗試都更加困難，飛機上的這種設備只有在遠離任何潛在的雷達站時才會關閉。

據報道，Su-57正視圖的雷達橫截面積超過0.5 -2平米，很容易被AN/APG 77或AN/APG81雷達看到。中國J-20的前視圖雷達橫截面積0.001平方米，雖然這一數據已經被許多國家包括美國質疑，J-20戰鬥機存在一些無法隱形的屬性。根據專家的説法，J-20的尾翼、機身的鉚接部分、鴨翼將使得J-20明顯更容易被機械或掃描雷達偵測到。 0

If you also consider that AWAC and f18 would also provide extra jamming if both USA stealth jets ever needed to take out a sam you would see that Stealth appears to have the advantage in offensive capability over defensive SAM system. An area can be saturated with false positives. This was noted recently in Syria when an f-35 clear flew over the Capital and the s300 failed to pick it up. Which is claimed to have a 300km detection range. Russia made the excuse that the s300 was switched off? A view that would seem unlikely in a war zone.The f-35 is a force multiplier as every jet acts as a mini awacs and extends the affective range of the target area. Allowing any jet in stealth mode to send target lock data to a third party in the rear who could fire an array of missiles and decoys at any target preventing interception. This makes the f-35 the most deadliest jet on the planet.

最近在敍利亞，一架F-35戰機飛過敍利亞首都上空，而S-300卻沒有偵測到，據稱其探測距離為300公里。俄羅斯藉口説S-300被關掉了？這種説法在戰區似乎不太可能。F-35是一個力量倍增器，因為每架飛機都像一個小型機載預警與控制系統，這使得F-35擴大了對目標區域的影響範圍。允許任何處於隱身模式的飛機將鎖定的目標的數據發送給後方的第三方，第三方可以發射一系列的導彈以及防止目標攔截的誘餌。這使得F-35成為地球上最致命的飛機。 0

Hansen Wang

no SU57 RCS is 0.1m2 watch it carefully and probably you need to watch it again.F22 has the lowest RCS with 0.0001m2 almost invisible to radar

personally, I don’t think SU57 can be called stealth fighter jet and I don’t mean to offend anyone. Its RCS is so large and will make it easy to be found by radar. I think the most important element that should be considered for 5th generation fighter is its RCS, like their name so called STEALTH fighter.

注意Su-57的雷達橫截面積是0.1平米，你可能需要再看一遍。F-22具有最低的雷達橫截面積，0.0001平米對於雷達幾乎不可見。就我個人而言，我不認為Su-57可以被稱為隱形戰鬥機，我也無意冒犯任何人。Su-57的雷達橫截面積非常大，很容易被雷達發現。我認為第五代戰機最應該考慮的因素就是雷達橫截面積，就像他們的名字，所謂的隱形戰機。 0

llamu dos

Su57 is between 0.3-0.5m2 Its low observable. Its not comparable to that of a stealth jet like f-22 or f-35 TBH. They are in a different league.

Su-57的雷達橫截面積在0.3-0.5平米之間，具有低可見性。Su-57無法與F-22或F-35這樣的隱形戰機相比，他們屬於不同的陣營。 0

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