英國的網友來説一下,在你們高中是怎麼描繪不列顛殖民主義的?_風聞
龙腾网-2021-01-19 16:40
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I am from one of the commonwealth countries and have always been taught how British colonialism was devastating for the country. Having said that, I understand that each country will have their own viewpoints on historical events and I would like to know the other side and weed out any inaccuracies that I might have learnt growing up. I tried to google it to no avail. Feel free to point to a book so I may educate myself. Thanks.
我來自英聯邦國家,一直被教導不列顛殖民主義對我們國家的摧殘。不過,我也能理解各個國家對歷史事件都有自己的看法,因此我想從另一個視角瞭解一下,剔除我成長過程中學到的可能不對的地方。我用谷歌搜了一下,沒什麼好答案。或者提供一些書籍讓我學習一下。感激不盡。
評論翻譯
MadLadEnzo
That is interesting. Was the end of colonialism ever covered? Was it due to the rebellions or because the colonies weren’t worth having anymore?
這很有趣。你們有教過殖民主義的終結嗎?是因為叛亂還是因為殖民地不再值得擁有了?
feudal_age
This was basically my experience and I started high school in 2007. We also did a lot on peasants and other “normal” people and a decent amount on WW2.
我在2007年開始上高中,我的情況也基本上是這樣。我們在農民和其他“普通人”身上教了很多,還有二戰。
scantreward
Also 90s education, Tudors, WW2, Tudors, Vikings, Tudors, Industrial Revolution, Tudors, Romans, Fucking Tudors.
No WW1, nothing about colonialism, and almost nothing that really mattered. I was in my late teens/early 20s before I corrected my otherwise piss poor history education. A lot of my contemporaries probably never did, so are totally ignorant on the most important history of all (which I consider to be WW1 and colonialism).
我也是90年代上的高中,都鐸王朝、二戰、都鐸王朝、維京、都鐸王朝、工業革命、都鐸王朝、羅馬、還是TM的都鐸王朝。
沒有第一次世界大戰,沒有殖民主義,幾乎沒有什麼重要的東西。在我糾正我糟糕的歷史知識時,我都20歲左右了。我的許多同齡人可能從來沒有糾正過,所以他們對最重要的歷史(我認為是一戰和殖民主義) 完全不瞭解。
Mr-Tootles
In Scotland we focused on internal elements and the two world wars exclusively. There was little to no coverage of colonialism. Most people I know had to educate themselves on this point.
在蘇格蘭,我們只關注國內的內容和兩次世界大戰。幾乎沒有關於殖民主義的內容。在這方面,我認識的大多數人都是自學的。
Eatus_Fetus
In my highschool my class was taught about how scottish immigration contributed to the cultures of Australia and Canada. India was briefly mentioned, we were taught how some of the East India Company’s leadership were originaly from Scotland and also how some Scottish regiments participated in suppressing revolts. Overall I was taught how the Empire made Britian wealthy at the expense of other nations and people
在我高中的時候,我的班教了蘇格蘭移民如何對澳大利亞和加拿大的文化做出貢獻。也簡短地提到了印度,告訴我們東印度公司的一些領導起源於蘇格蘭,還有蘇格蘭軍隊是如何參與鎮壓起義叛亂的。總的來説,我學到的是帝國是如何犧牲其他國家和人民來讓不列顛富裕起來的。
Mr-Tootles
I wish I had your teachers!! I swear if I had to hear about German interwar and world war 2 one more time I would explode
真希望那時候教我的是你們老師!!如果再讓我聽一次德國兩戰和第二次世界大戰的課,我會爆炸的。
yawningangel
My experience is from over 20 years ago so no doubt things have changed.
In high school we covered a fair bit of colonialism, none of it was positive.
The partition of india was something which we studies fairly in depth ,but we also looked at Africa, the Middle east etc.
我那會是20多年前了,所以情況肯定變了。
高中時,我們教了不少殖民主義,但全都不是正面的。
印度分裂是我們深入研究的內容,我們也研究非洲、中東等內容。
MadLadEnzo
I see, were any of the strategies that were used by the colonists covered? That is something I find extremely interesting since its quite surprising given the small amount of people that land on the ports.
明白了,那殖民者使用的策略有教嗎?這是我非常感興趣的事情,因為考慮到登陸的人數很少,讓人很好奇。
SeleucusNikator1
Interesting. My school did absolutely nothing on India, but instead we learned quite a bit about Nigeria.
有意思。我們學校完全沒有關於印度的內容,反而學了很多尼日利亞的內容。
yawningangel
Most wasn’t that in depth tbh,just learnt about the “insurgencies “.
Did spend a bit more time covering Gandhi and peaceful protest.
大部分講得都不深入,只是瞭解了“叛亂”。
確實花了稍微多一點的時間講述了甘地與和平抗議。
maverick3470
I finished secondary school (high school) in the early 2010’s and like others here the British empire was barely covered. The Boer War was the only part we studied and the empire was never spoken about in a positive way.
We studied the Romans, Normans, WWI, women’s suffrage in the UK, the causes of WWII, and apartheid- specifically the Sharpeville massacre.
I studied the English (War of the Roses) and American civil wars at A Level (age 17).
我在2010年代初期讀完中學(高中),和其他人一樣,大英帝國幾乎沒有提到,布爾戰爭是我們研究的唯一內容,從來沒有以積極的方式講述過帝國。
我們研究了羅馬人、諾曼人、第一次世界大戰、英國的婦女選舉權、第二次世界大戰的起因、種族隔離特別是沙佩維爾大屠殺。
我在17歲的時候研究了英國(玫瑰戰爭)和美國內戰。
belalthrone
Wait do you guys call the American Revolution and the War of 1812 “civil wars”? It makes sense if so, it’s just odd to hear as an American lol
等下,你們把美國獨立戰爭和1812年戰爭叫做“內戰”?這樣的話也有道理,只是在我這個美國人聽起來有點怪。
JosBenson
No, the American Revolution and war of 1812 are not called the civil wars. The American civil war refers to 1865 civil war, the south v the north. Abraham Lincoln etc.
The British do not think of American independence as a civil war. I’m fact we barely cover it as it was of so little importance to British history. It was obviously a big deal for American history, but a mere blip in British history with very little impact.
不是,美國獨立戰爭和1812年戰爭不叫內戰。美國內戰是指1865年南北戰爭,南方VS北方,亞伯拉罕·林肯等。
英國不認為美國獨立是內戰。事實上,我們幾乎不涉及這方面內容,因為它對英國曆史的重要性非常低。它對美國曆史當然是大事,但在英國歷史上只是個小插曲,沒什麼影響。
CuriousastheCat
I think this is gets a bit overstated, though a natural reaction to an American tendency to think America was the most important colony by far.
In wider British history the indirect impact was massive. The amount of French money splurged on the war of independence precipitated the bankruptcy of the French monarchy and from there the Revolution, Napoleon etc etc. The world turned upside down indeed.
我認為説得誇張了,雖然美國人認為美國是最重要的殖民地這是自然的反應。
在英國歷史上,美國獨立的間接的影響是巨大的。法國在美國獨立戰爭中揮霍的大量金錢讓法國君主制破產,由此引發了革命、拿破崙等等。世界確實發生了巨大變化。
belalthrone
Ahh okay, I misunderstood the above post then
啊好吧,我誤解了上面的帖子
gratitude1
History in british schools is pretty much just tudors and ww2
英國學校教授的歷史幾乎都是都鐸王朝和二戰。
arracudauk663
As a history teacher here in the UK I’ll say that my curriculum is heavily focused on imperialism. I’m surprised at how many aren’t actually.
作為一名英國曆史老師,我要説我的課程基本都是關於帝國主義的。實際上我很驚訝竟然有這麼多人學的不是這些。