在加拿大比在北歐國家（挪威、丹麥、瑞典）生活更好嗎？從哪些方面來看是這樣的？_風聞

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Bryan Robertson

May 17

Western Canada and the more rural areas of Canada do have certain race relations issues and there is the rather poor treatment of the First Nations people - it also seems some of the pro-Trump mania has worked it’s way northward.

So, far it isn’t reaching a level that would create more then isolated incidents - but we still have some work ahead of us.

加拿大西部和更多的農村地區確實存在某些種族關係問題，而且原住民的待遇相當差--似乎一些支持特朗普的狂熱已經向北蔓延。

到目前為止，它還沒有達到會造成更多孤立事件的程度--但我們仍有一些工作要做。

Roman Martyn

May 12

Where would you advice an Eastern European to migrate to (non-EU country, Ukraine)? To Nordics or to Canada?

你會建議一個東歐人移民到哪裏（非歐盟國家，烏克蘭）？去北歐還是去加拿大？

Rohit Arora

May 11

Are people becoming racist towards Indians too in Europe?

在歐洲，人們也會對印度人產生種族主義嗎？

Erik Engheim

, studied at University of North Dakota

From having lived in different countries I think it is hard to say one country is definitely better than another. It depends so much on what you value as a person, what kind of job you have, where you are in life. Are you single, have children and a family etc?

It may be tempting to compare Canada to Nordic countries because they are all far north and known as quite successful countries. However these countries are dramatically different from each other.

I have not spent a lot of time in Canada, but I have lived in the US, and I am married to a Canadian. My impression of Canada is that it is sort of America done right. Take away the really bad things about America and you get Canada.

While Canadians love to compare Canada to Europe it really is nothing like it. Canada is far more similar to the US. As a Norwegian visiting Canada what struck me is that suburbs, stores, downtowns, public transport, how people interact etc is very similar to the US.

From a European perspective I found e.g. Toronto and areas around it to have very little public transport compared to what I am used to in Norway or the rest of Europe. Mississauga e.g. which has a 1 million inhabitants has no subway or tram and only a pretty rudimentary buss network. Contrast that with Oslo which has half the population but which has an extensive subway network (larger than Toronto with much larger population), extensive tram network and busses.

Canada is probably better if you want a place where it is easy and convenient to drive. Want a big house and make a rapid career. However if you value more work-life balance then Nordic countries are better. More of society is setup to benefit children and family life: shorter work days, more autonomy and flexibility at work. Better maternity leave and childcare solutions. Nordic neighborhoods from what I have seen are also better organized for children. They tend to be built like little villages where children can move between houses, playgrounds, schools etc safely. I Canada it seems like all houses are placed along car roads, because garages are placed with each house. In Norway e.g. one tends to place garages away from the houses to allow a car free neighborhood. There is more playgrounds scattered about than I could see when walking around Canadian neighborhoods.

Nordic cities also have walkable downtown areas. I tried walking around downtown Toronto. It was terrible. Everything is spaced too far apart and each area is very specialized. I found it hard to replace are regular day in Oslo, where I walk to a bookstore, look at some books, then go past an ice cream place to get some ice cream. Later maybe get some dinner before I walk into a movie theatre and watch a movie. In Toronto your feet would hurt bad if you tried that. You have to use a car to move around.

So what you want depends on whether you are into a more urban style European lifestyle or if you want the more car-centric North American lifestyle.

For adults without children, there are many things which are nicer in Canada though. E.g. they have very large apartment complexes with a lot of facilities like their own library swimming pool etc.

Basically Canada offers more material benefits: easier access to swimming pools, more sextion in stores, bigger houses, cheaper cars etc. Nordic countries offer more family oriented work-life balance. However Canadians are also more social and easier to get to know than Scandinavians. If you are a very social and outgoing person, Scandinavia can be a bit though initially.

Each Nordic country of course is a bit different in what it offers. Denmark is amazing for biking, great beaches etc. Norway has impressive and very accessible nature and outdoor activities. While Canada of course has large nature areas I would claim it is more accessible in Norway. You can just jump on a subway in Oslo and go skiing or Snowboarding after work in Norway. Sweden is a bit in between Norway and Denmark. Finland I don’t know well enough.

從在不同國家生活的經驗來看，我認為很難説一個國家肯定比另一個國家好。這在很大程度上取決於你作為一個人的價值，你有什麼樣的工作，你在生活中處於什麼位置。你是單身，還是有孩子和家庭等等？

將加拿大與北歐國家進行比較可能是很誘人的，因為它們都在北方，而且被稱為相當成功的國家。然而，這些國家彼此之間存在着巨大的差異。

我沒有在加拿大呆過很長時間，但我在美國生活過，而且我和一個加拿大人結了婚。我對加拿大的印象是，它有點像美國。去掉美國真正不好的東西，你就得到了加拿大。

雖然加拿大人喜歡將加拿大與歐洲相提並論，但它真的與歐洲完全不同。加拿大與美國更為相似。作為一個訪問加拿大的挪威人，我感到驚訝的是，加拿大的郊區、商店、市中心、公共交通、人們的交往方式等都與美國非常相似。

從歐洲的角度來看，我發現，與我在挪威或歐洲其他地方所習慣的相比，多倫多及其周邊地區的公共交通非常少。例如，擁有100萬居民的密西沙加沒有地鐵或有軌電車，只有一個相當簡陋的公交網絡。奧斯陸的人口只有多倫多的一半，但它有一個廣泛的地鐵網絡（比多倫多大得，而後者有着更多的人口），廣泛的有軌電車網絡和公共汽車，兩者形成鮮明對比。

如果你想找一個開車容易和方便的地方，加拿大可能更好。想擁有一棟大房子並迅速發展事業。然而，如果你重視工作和生活的平衡，那麼北歐國家會更好。這裏更多的社會設置有利於兒童和家庭生活：更短的工作日，更多的工作自主權和靈活性。更好的產假和托兒解決方案。就我所見，北歐的社區也更適合兒童。它們往往建得像小村莊一樣，孩子們可以在房屋、操場、學校等之間安全移動。在加拿大，似乎所有的房子都是沿着汽車道路建造的，因為每棟房子都有車庫。在挪威，人們傾向於將車庫放在遠離房屋的地方，以便建立一個沒有汽車的社區。到處散落的操場比我在加拿大社區散步時看到的還要多。

北歐的城市也有適合散步的市中心地區。我試着在多倫多市中心散步。這很糟糕。所有的東西都隔得太遠，每個區域都很專業。我發現很難取代在奧斯陸的常規日子，我走到一家書店，看一些書，然後經過一家冰淇淋店，買一些冰淇淋。後來也許會吃點晚飯，然後再走進一家電影院看電影。在多倫多，如果你想這樣做，你的腳會很疼。你必須使用汽車來移動。

所以你想要什麼取決於你是喜歡更多城市風格的歐洲生活方式，還是想要更多以汽車為中心的北美生活方式。

對於沒有孩子的成年人來説，加拿大有很多東西是比較好的。例如，他們有非常大的公寓樓，這裏有很多設施，如他們自己的圖書館游泳池等。

基本上加拿大提供了更多的物質利益：更容易獲得游泳池，商店裏有更多的選擇，更大的房子，更便宜的汽車等等。北歐國家提供更多以家庭為導向的工作和生活平衡。然而加拿大人也比斯堪的納維亞人更善於社交，更容易結識。如果你是一個非常善於社交和外向的人，斯堪的納維亞半島最初可能會有點難。

當然，每個北歐國家提供的東西都有點不同。丹麥的自行車、海灘等都很不錯。挪威有令人印象深刻和非常容易接近的自然和户外活動。雖然加拿大當然也有着大片的自然區域，但我認為挪威的自然區域更容易到達。你可以在奧斯陸跳上地鐵，下班後去挪威滑雪或滑雪板。瑞典有點介於挪威和丹麥之間。芬蘭我不太瞭解。

Alan Dillman

“Everything is spaced too far apart and each area is very specialized.”

We definitely space things out, because we can. The area specialization might be a Toronto/Ontario thing.

Western Canadian cities tend to be laid out so that each neighbourhood has access to some shopping. For instance, I can get banking, bread or a snack about 5 minutes walk from me, or about 2.0 km in different directions are two supermarkets. Plus fine dining, drug store, pet stores, et cetera. The local recreation center is 1.7 km. 900 meters if I take shortcuts that google maps isn’t aware of. such as along side a soccer/football pitch.

Still more like US neighbourhoods, I am sure, but we try to have livable communities, instead of bedroom neighbourhoods and distant shopping centres.

The closest shopping centre has apartment buildings alongside it, as well as row houses for seniors. They are also five and ten minutes from a choice of supermarkets and all the stuff my neighbourhood has.

We do have to work on public transportation though.

“一切都間隔得太遠，每個領域都非常專業化。”

我們肯定會把事情分開，因為我們可以。區域專業化可能只是多倫多/安大略的事情。

加拿大西部城市的佈局傾向於使每個社區都能獲得一些購物機會。例如，我可以在離我步行5分鐘的地方買到銀行業務、麪包或小吃，或者在不同方向約2.0公里處有兩家超市。另外還有高級餐廳、藥店、寵物店等等。當地的娛樂中心是1.7公里。如果我走谷歌地圖不知道的捷徑，則是900米，比如在一個足球場邊上。

我敢肯定，這仍然更像美國的社區，但我們試圖建立宜居社區，而不是卧室社區和遙遠的購物中心。

最近的購物中心旁邊有公寓樓，也有老年人的排屋。他們距離可供選擇的超市和我所在社區的所有東西也有5到10分鐘的路程。

不過我們確實要在公共交通上下功夫。