QA問答:為什麼這麼多美國人想要移民到瑞典、瑞士、挪威、丹麥等?_風聞
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Why do so many Americans want to move to Sweden, Switzerland, Norway, Denmark, Australia, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, and the Netherlands?
為什麼這麼多的美國人想搬去瑞典、瑞士、挪威、丹麥、澳大利亞、加拿大、日本、新西蘭和荷蘭?
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Why do so many Americans want to move to Sweden, Switzerland, Norway, Denmark, Australia, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, and the Netherlands?
為什麼這麼多的美國人想搬去瑞典、瑞士、挪威、丹麥、澳大利亞、加拿大、日本、新西蘭和荷蘭?
Pilar Quezzaire
I decided to answer this as an American who actually moved to the Netherlands. The other posters are Americans living Stateside who haven’t emigrated and are speculating.
There are three main reasons I left the US:
The US has a cruel social system. From its credit ratings to expensive and sporadic health care, Americans are punished for poverty and rewarded for greed. This is on top of more virulent racism, police brutality, religious fundamentalism and other signs of an unequal and failing state. There are better systems that make it possible to live free and live well. The Netherlands happened to be where I ended up with a job after having lived abroad a while. I discovered quickly how much less stressful it is to live, work, buy a house, pay for health care, etc. Things are not perfect in the Netherlands, but there is less inequality and more opportunities for educated people.
Americans enjoy being cruel to one another. They participate in a cruel system, and this rubs off on how they interact with each other and “the other.” I got tired of it. It’s easier to be kind and charitable for good effect instead of satisfying one’s ego or dolling out “charity” to those considered “deserving” (almost always with flawed judgment, emphasis on judgment. Americans are very judgmental compared to many other countries.)
Lastly, I was exhausted by Americans’ ignorance of the rest of the world. The constant “American Dream” propaganda, being inundated with the country’s “greatness” despite its flaws being glaringly obvious, and otherwise being unable to see past America to other, more successful countries. The US takes that ignorance unto the international stage through its military and diplomatic thuggery, and that hadn’t done much to help the world.
I just didn’t want to be associated with America’s problem nor promote its “greatness.” It’s a right-wing country with ego problems, even if its people are from many different opinions and walks of life.
我決定以一個移居荷蘭的美國人的身份來回答這個問題。其他的發帖人都是住在美國的美國人,他們沒有移民過,只是在猜測。
我離開美國有三個主要原因:
美國的社會制度很殘酷。從信用評級到昂貴而零星的醫療保健,美國人因貧窮而受到懲罰,因貪婪而得到獎勵。除此之外,還有更嚴重的種族主義、警察暴行、宗教原教旨主義和其他一些不平等和失敗國家的跡象。有更好的體制系統可以讓人們自由地生活,生活得更好。在國外生活了一段時間後,我在荷蘭找到了一份工作。我很快發現,生活、工作、買房、支付醫療保健等方面的壓力大大減輕了。荷蘭的情況並不完美,但不平等現象減少了,受過教育的人有了更多的機會。
美國人喜歡對彼此殘忍。他們參與了一個殘酷的體制,這影響了他們如何與他人溝通互動。我厭倦了。與滿足自我或施捨給那些“值得”的人相比,做一個善良和慈善的人更容易獲得良好的效果。(幾乎總是有錯誤的判斷,而且強調判斷。和許多其他國家相比,美國人很愛評頭論足。)
最後,美國人對世界其他地區的無知讓我筋疲力盡。不斷的“美國夢”宣傳,充斥着這個國家的“偉大”,儘管它的缺陷是顯而易見的,否則就無法看到其他更成功的國家超越美國。美國通過軍事和外交手段將這種無知帶到國際舞台上,而這對世界並沒有多大幫助。
我只是不想和美國的問題扯上關係,也不想宣揚它的“偉大”。
這是一個有自我問題的右翼國家,儘管它的人民有着不同的觀點和生活階層。
Chris Ebbert
Well, those are very nice, modern countries where life is comfortable.
And if someone has options, one of these will definitely offer an alternative to the US. I considered all of these plus some when I moved on from the US, too.
I guess the main thing I was missing in the US was an element of depth. Having grown up in Europe, it just seemed to me that the whole American living experience was a bit like “just add water” - everything was quick and easy, colourful, and presented with a wide grin by some fabulously upbeat fella who wished you a nice day.
This was immensely fun for a while, but then it sank in that the whole world that was created there was somehow made from cardboard, and that all the flashy Buicks and particle board mansions came with a short expiry date and weren’t really based in much history or culture.
So it’s basically like living surrounded by cheap and flashy home improvement market grade stuff.
I kind of woke up when I visited Japan, and my sister in London.
That’s when it dawned on me that there was a whole dimension of interestingness that’s lacking in the US. And eventually, I left again, and have found my home in Europe anew. I suppose I had to leave first to appreciate what I had there to begin with.
嗯,那些都是生活舒適的現代化國家。
如果有人有選擇的機會,其中一個國家肯定會提供一個替代美國的選擇。當我離開美國的時候,我會考慮所有的問題。
我想我在美國最缺少的是深度元素。我是在歐洲長大的,對我來説,整個美國的生活經歷有點像“加水就好”——一切都很快捷、簡單、豐富多彩,而且會有一個非常樂觀的傢伙帶着笑容祝你有個美好的一天。
這在一段時間內是非常有趣的,但隨後你就會意識到,在那裏創造的整個世界都是用紙板做成的,所有華而不實的別克車和顆粒板大廈都是短期的,而且沒有多少歷史或文化基礎。
所以基本上就像生活在廉價和華麗的家居裝飾市場級別的東西。
當我去日本的時候,我的妹妹在倫敦。
那時我才意識到,這裏有一個美國所缺乏的有趣的維度。最終,我再次離開了日本,在歐洲重新找到了我的家。我想我必須先離開才能欣賞和理解我在那裏開始的一切。
James Martin
The reality is the number of Americans becoming ex-pats isn’t growing per capita, just the overall number is increasing because the population base is growing. So the emigration from the US is pretty much like it has been for several decades (no big change).
So now that the “so many” part of the question has been addressed. Let’s look at what kind of people move from a Capitalistic Republic to a Socialist Democracy nation (alas Venezuela doesn’t fall into that category as the so-called patriots seem to always troll in these kind of posts).
Quality of life. This is a biggie for most since money isn’t everything and the mercenary style of an Ayn Rand inspired political and corporate attitude is too much for people willing to become foreigners and leave it all behind. Life is about living, not just about working. So those looking for a better balance of work and life outside of work will choose any of those countries (except for Japan).
Raising children. Ex-pats don’t have to worry about their kids being shot at school and don’t go through active shooter drills because unrestricted gun rights isn’t an issue outside the US. Add the better quality of education for elementary and secondary school, the kids can always go back to the US for University if they want, but the parents know their child will make it to adulthood without being shot at school, not something that can be guaranteed in the US.
Healthcare. The US healthcare is over priced and underperforming; you are more likely to die in the US healthcare system than any of the other countries. The US is the only of those countries where medical bankruptcy is a thing.
Depth and Worldview. Born in America (13th generation), but moved when I was five weeks old to the UK and later Germany, I grew up in Europe, so “returning” to the US for University made me more a foreigner than an American. I tried to integrate but the culture shock was massive. What I found hardest was the lack of depth and myopic worldview in the majority of people. Friendly like nowhere else in the world, but too hung up on religion, sex, politics, sports, and cults of personality.
事實是,成為外籍人士的美國人數量並不是人均增長,而是總體增長,因為人口基數在增長。所以從美國移民到其他國家的情況和過去幾十年差不多(沒有大的變化)。
所以現在問題的“很多”部分已經被解決了。讓我們看看什麼樣的人從資本主義共和國走向社會主義民主國家(委內瑞拉不屬於這一類,因為所謂的愛國者似乎總是這類帖子中噴子)。
生活質量,這對大多數人來説都是件大事,因為金錢不是一切,而受艾茵·蘭德鼓舞的政治和企業唯利是圖的態度和風格,讓那些願意成為外國人、把一切拋在腦後的人難以承受。生活就是生活,而不僅僅是工作。所以那些想在工作之外尋求更好的工作和生活平衡的人會選擇這些國家中的任何一個(除了日本)。
撫養孩子,外籍人士不用擔心他們的孩子在學校被槍擊,也不用參加積極的射擊訓練,因為在美國以外,不受限制的持槍權利不是一個問題。再加上小學和中學的教育質量更好,如果他們想的話,孩子以後也是可以回到美國上大學的,但父母知道並保證他們的孩子會在學校里長大而不會被槍擊,這在美國是不能保證的。
醫療保健服務,美國醫療服務定價過高,表現不佳;你在美國的醫療體系中死亡的可能性比其他任何國家都大。美國是唯一一個醫療破產的國家。
深度和世界觀。我出生在美國(第13代),但在我5周大的時候搬到了英國,後來又搬到了德國,我在歐洲長大,所以“回到”美國上大學讓我更像一個外國人,而不是美國人。我試圖融入美國社會,但文化衝擊太大了。我發現最困難的是大多數人缺乏深度和短視的世界觀。與世界上其他任何地方都不一樣,大多數人都不友好,但對宗教、性、政治、體育和個人崇拜太過執着。