網友討論：未來十年日本經濟預測_風聞

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Tanjim Purno

If you want to understand Japan’s economy then you must watch Princes of Yen. This documentary beautifully explains how Japan grew so quickly and then became stagnant. It’s available on YouTube as well.

如果你想要了解日本的經濟，那麼你必須看看《日元王子》這部紀錄片。這部紀錄片完美解釋了日本是如何快速發展並陷入停滯的。在油管上就可以看到這部紀錄片

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AmeriCA MEinyourmouth

He’s wrong Japan has grown. Japan’s Real GDP PPP in 1990 was $4.06 Trillion and in 2019 it was $5.30 Trillion.

他錯了，日本一直在增長，1990年按購買力平價計算，日本的GDP是4.06萬億美元，2019年日本的GDP是5.3萬億美元

Jesus Medina

@AmeriCA MEinyourmouth not when you take inflation into consideration

如果把通貨膨脹考慮進去的話，日本根本就沒有在發展

DUC HUY

it became stagnant because ex-president Reagan force the yen to double becuase the USA auto could not compete. So everything imported from japan went up atleast by 50% so hurt Japane corporate profit. 

日本陷入停滯是因為美國前總統里根迫使日元升值一倍，因為美國汽車無法和日本競爭。所以從日本進口的所有產品的價格至少上漲了50%。這損害了日本企業的利潤。

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はし

thanks for your recommendation! As a Japanese, I have really wondered why economy get stuck for decades unlike other countries. I will watch this documentary and hope I can find out!

感謝你的推薦，作為一個日本人，我真的很好奇為什麼日本經濟停滯了幾十年，而其他國家卻沒有這樣。接下來我會去看這部紀錄片，希望我可以找到這個答案。

Fallout Boy

I think the difference between comparing the fear of Japan’s 1980s economy overtaking the US and the fear of China’s economy taking over the US today is that even if China overtakes the US’s economy, it would only imply the Chinese worker is 1/4 as productive as the average American, while in the 80s, if Japan overtook the US’s economy, it would imply the Japanese are twice as productive as the average American

我認為對上世紀80年代日本經濟超過美國的恐懼和現在中國經濟超過美國的恐懼是不一樣的，因為即便中國經濟超過了美國，也只是意味着中國工人的人均生產力達到了美國的四分之一而已，而在80年代，如果日本經濟超過了美國，則意味着日本的人均生產力是美國的兩倍。

劉 健傑 「Liew Jien Jie・リュ ジエンジ 」

Japan’s old-fashioned workplace culture is holding them back. Young people are encouraged to dedicate their lives to big corpos rather than engaging in startups.

日本過時的職場文化阻礙了他們的發展。年輕人被鼓勵將自己的人生奉獻給大公司，而不是被鼓勵去創業。

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Moepowerplant

Strangely enough Japan or at least Tokyo gets high scores on a world innovation index. I wonder what new stuff they actually put out given that ossified work culture.

奇怪的是，日本，至少東京，在世界創新指數上面得分很高，我很好奇，在這種僵化的工作文化下，他們到底推出了什麼新的東西

ARTURO LIRIO RAPADAS

I agree. I have friends who are Japanese Expats here in Philippines. We Filipinos admire them because of they are developed citizens and well known in their working ethics. Despite a lot of nationalities admire their culture they are a shame of having not a work life balance and easily get depressed. They may be developed advance country but their working culture is outdated already that needs a lot of changes. Japanese working culture is criticized for their heirarchy in corps and long hours of working that leads to depression and suicide of japanese workers.

我同意你的觀點，我有一些朋友，他們是駐菲律賓的日本外籍人士，我們菲律賓人很欽佩他們，因為他們是發達國家的公民，並且以職業道德而著稱。儘管有很多國家的人欣賞日本文化，但遺憾的是他們無法平衡好工作和生活的關係，容易患上抑鬱症。他們或許是發達的先進國家，但他們的工作文化已經過時了，需要進行重大的改變。日本工作文化中的等級制度和過長的工作時間廣受批評，這些因素導致員工抑鬱和自殺。

CaseNumber00

I dont think its the workplace culture effecting the economy, overall I think its better than the US, its just Japan cant physically grow. 70-75% of its land is mountainous, virtually unusable. You cant build factories, buildings, homes, more food. In addition, for a volcanic island, it has poor mineral deposits and other natural resources. They dont have the resources and space to make growth, in fact, I am impressed it hasnt gotten backwards at all where other nations have. However, yikes, I dont like that type of overtime culture they have.

我認為日本的工作文化並沒有影響經濟的發展，我認為日本表現得比美國好，只是日本無法再增長了。日本有70%到75%得土地都是山區，根本就無法得到利用。你無法在這裏建造工廠，建築物，住宅，也不能在這些地方生產更多的糧食。而且對於一個火山頻發得島國來説，日本的礦產資源和其他自然資源貧乏。他們沒有經濟發展的資源和空間，事實上，他們沒有像其他國家一樣倒退，我就已經覺得很了不起了。但我並不喜歡日本的加班文化

Roger Bartlet

You have to work overtime to make up for the lack of people in the workforce.

日本必須靠加班來彌補勞動力上的不足

ian lim

Thing is that in Japan, if you detract from the social norms, you will be considered a social outcast. This mindset is planted in japanese people starting from elementary schools. Therefore, if you ask for changes in work culture for the better in Japanese companies, you will instead be ostracised by your colleagues and managers.

問題是，在日本，如果你不遵守社會規範，你就會被視為是社會的棄兒。這種心態在日本人上小學的時候就已經生根發芽了。所以如果你要求日本企業改善工作文化，你就會受到同事和經理的排擠

12shzarmai 55

reminds me of South Korea

這讓我想起了韓國

JADiaz10

Actually in the US this is quite normal. Japan and US are the top 2 countries when it comes to how much their citizens work.

實際上在美國加班是很正常的，日本和美國是世界上工作時長最長的兩個國家

Slapstick Genius

Well, even western companies sometimes have overtime schedules.

即便是西方企業有時候也有加班的計劃

Jason

As I’ve come to understand, the Japanese overtime culture is enforced by just about everyone. I’ve heard it’s impolite to go home before your boss, and if bosses stay late, everyone else working under them is expected to do the same. And if you deviate from that, you’re frowned upon by your co-workers, your family, friends….

The Diet (Japanese governing body) has been making legislation that forcefully shuts off office building lights to encourage people to go home. The people of Japan are quite aware of their over-work problem, it’s just taking time to bend a culture that has been in place for centuries basically.

正如我所瞭解的那樣，日本職場上的每一個人都在執行加班文化。我聽説比老闆先走是不禮貌的，而如果老闆工作到很晚，那麼在他們手底下工作的員工也要留到很晚才能回家。如果你遵守這條規則的話，你的同事，家人和朋友都會對你感到不滿。日本國會一直在立法，強制要求關閉辦公大樓裏面的燈光，要求人們回家。日本人對過度加班問題非常清楚，但要改變存在了數個世紀的文化需要時間。