網友討論：為什麼南亞比東南亞更加成功？_風聞

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Prashant Bantwal (ಪ್ರಶಾಂತ್)

Follow Lives in Bengaluru, Karnataka, India5y

It is clearly not. How did you even come to the conclusion? The south east Asian countries are ahead in most of the indices like GDP per capita or hdi or life expectancy.

事實並非如此。你是怎麼得出這個結論的。在人均gdp，人類發展指數，和預期壽命等大部分指標上，東南亞國家都處於領先地位。

Rafi

Follow Former Content Creator at Ogilvy and Mather4y

South Asia is ‘NOT AS SUCCESSFUL’ as South East Asia let alone be ‘MORE SUCCESSFUL’. It is far behind South East Asia when it comes to economic, social or technological developments.

South-east Asia has plenty of success stories to boast about. Singapore literally went from ‘rags to riches’; she is the one of the most technologically advanced developed nations with super-skilled workforce. Thailand is the Mecca of international tourism. Malaysia has set economic records that have shocked the world and is home to a leading global city, Kuala Lumpur. Brunei is mad wealthy and Indonesia is on the verge of becoming a major economic power in the decades to come. Philippines and Vietnam are emerging markets and world has its eyes set on them. The infrastructure of most South East Asian nations are well-developed and they share strong economic ties with each other through ASEAN.

南亞沒有東南亞那麼成功，更不説比他們更加成功了。在經濟，社會和技術發展等方面，南亞都要落後於東南亞。

東南亞有很多值得誇耀的成功故事。比如新加坡從一個貧窮國家發展成為了一個富裕國家，新加坡擁有技能超級熟練的勞動力，是世界上技術最先進的發達國家之一。泰國是國際旅遊業的聖地。馬來西亞曾經創造過震驚世界的經濟記錄，而且馬來西亞還有世界級的先進城市吉隆坡。文萊非常的富裕，未來幾十年印尼將會成為經濟強國，菲律賓和越南是新興市場，他們正在吸引全世界的目光。大部分東南亞國家的基礎設施都相當發達，而且通過東盟，他們彼此之間建立了非常緊密的經濟聯繫。

Now compare all this with South Asia. India is a major economic powerhouse and is set to become a superpower within this century, but don’t forget India has the highest number of people living below the poverty line. There are more people in India who go hungry daily than the entire Sub-Saharan Africa. Pakistan is plagued by terrorism, poverty, corruption and religious extremism while Nepal remains one of the world’s most underdeveloped nations. Bangladesh is burdened by overpopulation and faces acute shortage of resources; most of its population are poor. Bhutan is a primitive country where little modernization has happened. Overall, the infrastructure and transportation system of South Asia is sub par and very little commerce exists amongst these nations, and not to forget, SAARC is a joke! South Asian cities look unattractive when compared to the Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur or Singapore. Even Jakarta or Hanoi look better than the best of the South Asian cities.

I would love to see a better and healthier South Asia in future, where mutual cooperation would bring social development and economic prosperity. That’s what exactly the ASEAN countries did!

和東南亞國家相比，南亞的印度雖然是一個經濟大國，並且預計在本世紀內會成為超級大國，但不要忘了，印度擁有世界上最多的貧困人口。印度的飢餓人口甚至比非洲撒哈拉以南的人口還要多。巴基斯坦飽受恐怖主義，貧困，腐敗和宗教極端主義的困擾，而尼泊爾是世界上最不發達的國家之一。孟加拉人口過剩，資源嚴重短缺，而且大部分人口都很貧窮。不丹是一個原始國家，現代化程度極低。總的來説，南亞的基礎設施和交通系統都在平均水平以下。這些國家之間幾乎沒有商業往來。別忘了，南亞區域合作聯盟就是一個笑話。和曼谷，吉隆坡，和新加坡相比，南亞城市看起來一點吸引力都沒有。南亞最好的城市甚至連雅加達或河內都比不上。

我希望未來可以看到一個更好更健康的南亞，我希望未來南亞國家可以相互合作，為彼此帶來社會發展和經濟繁榮。東盟國家過去就是這樣做的。

Jinty

You literally left out Sri Lanka which is more developed than the rest of South Asia and has a higher per capita income than most south East Asian countries minus Singapore/Malaysia/thailand.

你漏掉了斯里蘭卡，斯里蘭卡要比南亞其他國家更加發達，而且人均收入要超過除新加坡，馬來西亞和泰國外的大部分東南亞國家。

Leong Chee Lum

They must get rid of their caste system, start with Mumbai… And Delhi..

他們必須擺脱種姓制度，從孟買和德里開始

Jai Singh

but don’t forget India has the highest number of people living below the poverty line.

India has a extreme poverty rate of only 4% of it’s enormous population. Bangladesh and Pakistan both have a way higher poverty rate and worst living standards. Bangladesh is going through an economic crisis and don’t even get 24 hours electricity.

“不要忘了，印度擁有世界上最多的貧困人口”

印度極端貧困人口只佔總人口的4%。孟加拉和巴基斯坦的貧困率都遠高於印度，而且他們的生活水平是最差的。孟加拉正在經歷經濟危機，他們甚至無法做到24小時的電力供應。

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There are more people in India going hungry than entire Sub-Saharan Africa.

The hunger index is ranked by European countries and Indian government has not recognized that index.

They ranked Cuba ahead of India in this index while Cuba had a huge food crisis while India exported food to Cuba.

India literally exports food to so many countries around the world.

“印度飢餓人口數量超過了整個非洲撒哈拉以南的人口”

飢餓指數是歐洲國家排的，印度政府不承認飢餓指數的排名。

他們將有嚴重糧食危機的古巴排在印度的前面，而印度是古巴的糧食出口國。除古巴外，印度還向世界上很多其他國家出口糧食。

I don’t say that there aren’t any hungry people in India but definitely not as many as you say.

As for South East Asia, they’re as poor and undeveloped as any other. The only difference is that they’re way less in population and they’re not that famous.

我不是説印度沒有飢餓人口，但絕對沒有你説的那麼多。

至於東南亞，他們和其他國家一樣的貧窮和不發達。唯一的區別在於他們的人口較少，而且他們沒有那麼有名。

Sarah Shafer

Countries like Myanmar, Indonesia and Philippines are on the same level as Bangladesh or Nepal. India even has a higher quality of life than Thailand, Philippines and Indonesia.

緬甸，印尼和菲律賓的發展水平和孟加拉尼泊爾差不多。印度的生活質量甚至要高過泰國，菲律賓和印尼。

Muhammad Imam

“Countries like Maynamar, Indonesia and Philippines are on the same level as Bangladesh or Nepal. India even has a higher quality of life than Thailand, Philippines and Indonesia.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I assumed you are joking.

Thailand’s HDI score at 2021 was 800, Indonesia’s HDI score at 2021 was 705, and Philippines’s HDI score at 2021 was 699. Waaaay higher than India’s HDI score which is just 633 at 2021. If India’s human development index is lower than them, could you say India has better quality of life than Thailand, Philippines, and Indonesia?

No matter how much your denial is, the fact and truth won’t be in your side lol.

哈哈哈，我想你是在開玩笑吧

2021年泰國人類發展指數是0.8，印尼是0.705，菲律賓是0.699，都遠高於印度的0.633。印度的人類發展指數比他們都要低，你能説印度的生活質量要比泰國，菲律賓和印尼高嗎？

不管你怎麼否認，真相都不會站在你那邊。哈哈

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You are south Asians yourself

你是南亞人嗎？

Peter Topping

Follow ASEAN nerd, Indonesia fan and Myanmar watcher with Vietnamese neighbours.5y

Well the simple answer is that South Asia is not more sucessful than S.E Asia by any measure.

The per capita incomes are higher in South East Asia, there are less people in poverty and absolute poverty by UN and world bank metrics. A greater percentage of South East Asians have access to power, water, healthcare and education. There hasnt been a war since 1979. Less people have dies in war, religion conflict and famine in SE Asia since 1947 than South Asia.

The banking system is in better shape in SE Asia there is less pollution, less corruption and there is less of a problem with the status of women and the dowry violence.

Cross boarder trade is even some times easier withinn ASEAN than it is between Indian States.

SE Asia is better integrated into the world economy than South Asia.

Ask your self would you rather be born in poor South Asia or S. E Asia in 2017?

Where would you chose to live, Bangkok, K.L. Singapore, Bandar, Phnom Penh or Delhi Dakar Karachi Katmandu Chanii

答案很簡單，不管按照什麼標準，南亞都沒有比東南亞更加成功

東南亞的人均收入更高，按照聯合國和世界銀行的標準，東南亞的貧困人口和絕對貧困人口數量都更少。東南亞可以接觸到電力，自來水，醫療保健和教育的人口比例要更高一些。自1979年以來東南亞就沒有發生過戰爭了。自1947年以來，東南亞死於戰爭，宗教衝突，和饑荒的人要少於南亞。

東南亞銀行體系的狀況更好，腐敗更少，污染更少，沒有那麼嚴重的婦女地位問題，沒有那麼多因為嫁妝問題而引發的暴力事件

有時東盟各國的跨境貿易甚至要比印度各邦之間的更加容易。

和南亞相比，東南亞更好的融入到了世界經濟之中。

問問你自己，2017年，你是願意出生在貧窮的南亞還是東南亞？

你是會選擇生活在曼谷，吉隆坡，新加坡，金邊，班達爾還是會選擇生活在德里、達喀爾、卡拉奇和加德滿都？