【社會】人們認為印度軟件工程師優於中國工程師的原因是什麼？_風聞

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評論原創翻譯：

Santhakumar

Chinese engineers are good at manufacturing hardware and building infrastructure. They may be excelling in core engineering.

Many software developers cannot be called engineers.

Many people who get engg. degrees in India are not interested in doing core engineering work.

中國工程師擅長製造硬件和建設基礎設施，在核心工程方面表現出色。許多軟件開發人員不能被稱為工程師。在印度，許多獲得工程學位的人並不熱衷於從事核心工程工作。

Kanthaswamy Balasubramaniam

I judge a nations capabilities solely by their ability to develop Indigenous Technology

I don’t even ask for the best technology in the planet. I ask for technology that is applicable enough and basic enough to fulfill its purpose

我判斷一個國家的能力完全取決於他們開發自主技術的能力。我並不要求世界上最好的技術，而是要求足夠實用和基礎的技術，以滿足其目的。

Indias Software Industry is almost 30 years old

That’s a long time and Software and Hardware have both evolved over several generations in this period

What has the Indian Software Industry actually achieved?

The Best example was a few months ago when a small Microsoft upgrade issue resulted in Indian Airlines forced to write stuff in pens and cancel flights and helplessly say “Server down sir”

The Chinese were grinning and their flights flew like clockwork because they had Indigenous Software

印度的軟件產業幾乎已有30年的歷史。這段時間很長，軟件和硬件都在幾代人中不斷演變。那麼，印度軟件產業到底取得了什麼成就呢？最好的例子是幾個月前，一次小的微軟升級問題導致印度航空不得不手寫航班信息，取消航班，並無奈地説“服務器癱瘓了，先生”。而中國的航空公司則微笑着，他們的航班一切如常，因為他們擁有自主研發的軟件。

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We are a country which is primarily used for Project Management & creating ecosystems for services using Western Core Software & Western Hardware

Forget Military Grade Servers, we don’t even have fully Indigenous Structural Software for Defense. Even that is in collaboration with the Israelis.

So how are Indian Software Engineers superior in any way?

我們是一個主要用於項目管理和創建服務生態系統的國家，依賴西方的核心軟件和西方的硬件。忘掉軍用級服務器吧，我們甚至沒有完全自主的防禦結構軟件，這些軟件都是與以色列合作開發的。那麼，印度的軟件工程師在任何方面有何優越之處呢？

The Chinese started almost 15 years after we did

As late as 2009, they were still quite behind us in Software and their Software efforts were laughable

Yet today their IOT work and their Software is top notch in most areas

中國在我們之後大約晚了15年開始發展。到2009年，他們在軟件領域仍然遠遠落後於我們，軟件開發的努力甚至可笑。然而，如今他們在物聯網和軟件領域的工作在大多數領域都是頂尖的。

They have almost 20 Indigenous Tools continuously developed including ALISQL, XJAVA, WUCHING, RocketMQ

They have their own Structural Software

Their Key Industries all run on Indigenous Cloud & Indigenous Programming & Indigenous Servers with Inspur,H3C, Huawei & Sugon as well as Loongson, Shenwei & Feiteng processors

他們幾乎擁有20款持續開發的自主工具，包括ALISQL、XJAVA、WUCHING和RocketMQ。他們擁有自己的結構軟件。關鍵產業都運行在自主雲、自主編程和自主服務器上，使用的是浪潮、H3C、華為和Sugon，以及龍芯、神威和飛騰處理器。

Yet the biggest difference between the Indian and Chinese is that

Even with all these achievements in less than 15 years, the Chinese still always say “WE HAVE TO CATCH UP, WE HAVE A LOT TO DO”

Even with ZERO ACHIEVEMENTS in the past 30 years beyond mostly writing coolie code for the White man - we Indians always say “SILICON VALLEY, SOFTWARE GIANTS, IT GIANT, SUPERIOR SOFTWARE SKILLS ETC”

然而，印度和中國之間最大的區別在於：儘管在不到15年的時間裏取得了如此多的成就，中國人仍然總是説“我們必須趕上，還有很多工作要做”。而我們印度人則在過去30年裏幾乎沒有任何成就，除了為西方人編寫苦力代碼，卻總是自誇“硅谷、軟件巨頭、IT巨頭、卓越的軟件技能”等等。

And of course some guy will go “UPI, UPI, UPI” , the sole defense against Indian Mediocrity

So Indians must STFU and do something worthwhile and then other countries will talk of our software skills

The day US bans Indian Software Or Indian IT companies, that’s the sign that WE HAVE MADE IT Or WE ARE GETTING THERE

當然，總會有人説“UPI，UPI，UPI”，這是對印度平庸的唯一辯護。因此，印度人必須閉嘴，做一些有價值的事情，這樣其他國家才會談論我們的軟件技能。美國一旦禁止印度軟件或印度IT公司，那就是我們成功或正在走向成功的標誌。

Rajeesh Cm

Most of the work done in Indian IT companies is maintainence and writing business logic on top of systems built in the western world. Now with AI entering the field even 50 percent of writing business logic will become automated.

印度IT公司大部分的工作是維護和在西方世界構建的系統上編寫業務邏輯。如今，隨着人工智能的進入，甚至有50%的業務邏輯編寫將變得自動化。

Kelvin Lee

The new job for software engineer will be quality assurance folks. Have anyone seen business logic defined by business and maintain by business. It’s usually a disaster, and those business folks either become pseudo software engineer with a background in process engineering. The tools keep changing, but the role morph accordingly. Only those unchanging and not able to adapt gets culled, change is pretty brutal.

軟件工程師的新工作將是質量保證。有沒有人見過由業務定義並由業務維護的業務邏輯？通常這是個災難，而那些業務人員要麼成為偽軟件工程師，要麼有過程工程的背景。工具不斷變化，但角色也隨之演變。只有那些不變且無法適應的人會被淘汰，變化是相當殘酷的。

Dave Chanakya

I have worked with both Chinese and Indian Engineers, the difference is these days Indian engineers graduate from call centers and Chinese engineers graduate from engineering schools.

我曾與中國和印度的工程師合作，區別在於如今印度的工程師大多是從呼叫中心畢業的，而中國的工程師則是從工程學院畢業的。

Subramaniam Duraisamy

Answer is simple - the west pays good money which the IT industry runs on. Now Middle East is a good market Let the Chinese or the Japs pay that quantum of money to me to meet my bills and lifestyle needs, and I will gladly switch to them.

答案很簡單——西方支付高額薪資，這也是IT行業運作的基礎。現在中東市場也不錯。如果中國或日本願意給我支付相應的薪水來滿足我的賬單和生活需求，我會很高興地轉向他們。

Dheeraj S

West doesn’t really pay good for Indians. Payscale for devs from India in those companies are not on par with somebody working from UK or US. It’s just the exchange rate difference from INR to USD, GBP and Euros makes you think it’s huge.

西方並沒有真的給印度人支付很高的薪水。在那些公司的印度開發人員的薪資水平與在英國或美國工作的人並不相當。只是從印度盧比到美元、英鎊和歐元的匯率差異讓你覺得差距很大。

Subramaniam Duraisamy

It still helps us lead a decent lifestyle right?. Let the Chinese offer competitive packages for a comparison. Who stopped them?

這仍然幫助我們過上體面的生活，對吧？讓中國提供有競爭力的薪資來做比較。誰阻止了他們？

Shin Chan

Simple answer- we know English and do what pays more with full dedication

簡單的回答——我們會説英語，努力做能賺更多錢的工作。

Kanthaswamy Balasubramaniam

It’s more like we do what requires least effort and pays the most

更確切地説，我們做的是花費最少努力且薪水最高的工作。

Shin Chan

Software development isn’t easy

It’s a very tiring job and that you have to be constantly upxed with the industry

軟件開發並不簡單。這是一項非常辛苦的工作，而且你必須不斷跟進行業動態。

Dheeraj S

Maybe software dev job is tiring, stress inducing and sometimes monotonous but learning curve is not steep as say electronics, electrical, VLSI design and many other engg fields.

也許軟件開發工作是累人的，容易產生壓力，有時還很單調，但學習曲線並不像電子、電氣、VLSI設計和許多其他工程領域那樣陡峭。

Proud Atheist

“How long will it take for the USA to ban BYD like Huawei, or to restrict BYD from Google services?”

美國會多久禁止比亞迪像禁止華為一樣，或者限制比亞迪使用谷歌服務？

Meera Nadar

How come India fall behind world to such an extent that we are literally 30 years behind in terms of software technology. This society seriously need a reboot . Enormous amount of reboot seems promising to me at this point.India population might be inefficient and selfish without any sense of nationality but the land we inhabit is still full of resources. Just waiting for their right owners just like what happened with America 4 century ago. If we failed to adjust ourselves to progress , somebody else will kick our ass and our race will become a history. People are too individualistic to understand this .

為什麼印度在軟件技術方面落後於世界如此之多，以至於我們在這方面實際上落後了30年？這個社會真的需要重啓。在這一點上，大規模的重啓對我來説似乎是有希望的。印度人口可能低效且自私，沒有民族意識，但我們所居住的土地仍然充滿資源，只是在等待合適的擁有者，就像四百年前美國發生的那樣。如果我們無法適應進步，別人會來取代我們，我們的種族將成為歷史。人們太過個人主義，以至於無法理解這一點。

Luke Wang

America didn’t exist 4 centuries ago

美國在四百年前並不存在。

Meera Nadar

I mean continent America ( name land mass lies between Atlantic Ocean and Pacific Ocean) colonised by anglo saxons by total elimination of technologically backward natives.

我是説美洲大陸（即位於大西洋和太平洋之間的陸地），被盎格魯-撒克遜人殖民，完全消滅了技術落後的土著。

Chong S Lim

You mean total GENOCIDE of Native Americans. Being backward is no justification for GENOCIDE.

你是指對美洲土著人的徹底滅絕。落後並不是滅絕的理由。

Mahesh

Indian IT service companies get the contract only because of cost advantage.Cheap labor is India’s USP.

印度IT服務公司獲得合同只是因為成本優勢。廉價勞動力是印度的獨特賣點。

Hu Shi xiong

…the Chinese know English too . It’s essential if you intend to develop beyond china . Especially software or coding

There’s a reason why in Chinese majority Singapore the head of a national bank was an Indian and you’ve not seen any mainland Chinese in prominent leadership positions.

……中國人也會説英語。如果你打算在中國以外的發展，這一點是必不可少的。尤其是在軟件或編碼領域。在華人佔多數的新加坡，一家國家銀行的負責人是印度人，而你沒有看到任何大陸中國人在顯著的領導職位上。