【科技】小米SU7 Ultra在中國上市，馬力高達1500匹_風聞

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@syzygyer

It’s just released with the price of 529 k yuan (previously said to be 820k). xiaomi expect 10 k sales of SU 7 ultra for 2025. I think it will sell more than 10k units.

剛發佈的價格是52.9萬人民幣（之前説是82萬）。小米預計2025年SU7 Ultra能賣1萬台。我覺得這車肯定能賣得更多，1萬台太保守了。

@Mnm0602

How does 1500 hp even get to the road properly without insane tires lol? Holy shit.

怎樣才能讓1500匹馬力穩穩地在路面上行駛呀，沒有超強頂配輪胎抓地怕不是要飛出去。卧槽，這也太猛了。

@syzygyer

Check the video from YouTuber telescope. Obviously you can set it to some “comfort” mode which gives about 400 HP. Even on the track, he was driving in the “endurance” mode which only gives 900 HP. The 1500 is only supposed to be used seriously, like on a track.

看看油管博主telescope的視頻就知道了。很明顯你可以調到舒適模式，大概400馬力。就算在賽道上，他也是用"耐力賽"模式開的，只有900馬力。1500馬力那是要動真格的時候才用的，比如在賽道上飆車。

@linjun_halida

It has tires import from Europe.

這車用的是歐洲進口輪胎

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@danielv123

At higher speed I assume grip is less of an issue for acceleration and it gets more power limited, though I guess performance at 150+ doesn’t matter at all outside the track

速度上來之後，抓地力對加速的影響應該就沒那麼大了，更多是受限於動力。不過話説回來，150+的速度除了在賽道上，其他地方也用不上吧，誰沒事開那麼快啊！

@e136

Correct - the tire contact patches have a limited force they can apply to push the road backward/push the car forward. And since speed * force = power. And since power is approximately constant (very roughly), 1500 hp would overcome the contact patches friction at low speeds (spin tires) but not at high speeds. So I would guess this has a good 0-60mph time, but amazing higher end acceleration (say 100-150mph)

沒錯——輪胎與地面接觸的部分施加的力是有限的，它的作用是推動路面向後或推動汽車向前。由於速度乘以力等於功率，而功率大致是恆定的（非常粗略地説），所以在低速時，1500馬力能夠克服接觸面上的摩擦力（比如輪胎打滑），但在高速時就不行了。因此，我猜這輛車的0-60英里/小時加速時間應該不錯，但更令人驚訝的應該是它在高速區間的加速性能（例如100-150英里/小時）。

@Terrh

my 762hp model S seems to do just fine with all seasons even in the rain.

我那762馬力的特斯拉Model S各個季節開起來也完全沒問題，哪怕是雨天

@ssspppeed

The preordered amount has been over 10k. So impressive

預售量就已經破萬了，這也太頂了吧！

@nuHAYven

Many people preordered cyber trucks and then cancelled when they were so bad.

很多人預定了賽博卡車（特斯拉2019發佈的一款電動皮卡），結果發現太拉胯了，直接退單了。

@faitswulff

If xiaomi executes well, we’ll probably see the opposite effect here.

如果小米這波表現出色的話，咱們很可能會看到完全相反的情況

@mooman555

This car confuses me so much, these specs and those prices should be impossible

這輛車讓我一臉懵逼，這樣的配置和價格應該是不可能的。

@wwwhatisgoingon

All Chinese car prices seem impossible when directly converted. Domestic competition is massive, they’re operating at thin or negative profit margins to gain market share, big economies of scale, vertical integration, and there isn’t a dealership middleman demanding their share.

The most expensive trim and 530hp version of the BYD Seal, for comparison, sells for $25.000 converted.

中國汽車的價格直接換算後簡直離譜。國內競爭太激烈了，車企們都在薄利多銷甚至虧本賺吆喝，就為了搶佔市場份額。他們玩的是規模經濟，產業鏈垂直整合，而且沒有中間商賺差價。

就拿比亞迪海豹來説，頂配530馬力的版本換算成美元才2萬。

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@kimi_rules

$10,000 profit per car is not the same in the US vs China. Everything is cheaper in China, there is more value per dollar.

美中兩國每輛車賺1萬美元的利潤差別可大了。在中國，幾乎所有東西都很便宜，一美元能買到的東西更多。

@1AMA-CAT-AMA

Imagine what actual competition would do to the US market

想象一下真正的競爭會給美國市場帶來什麼衝擊

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@tenemu

Id assume most car companies would go under and everything will be manufactured in China not the US. Is this what people prefer? Sure cars could be cheaper but will people have any jobs to buy stuff?

我猜大多數汽車公司都會倒閉，所有東西都會在中國製造而不是美國。這是大家想要的嗎？車是便宜了，但到時候大家還有工作能買得起東西嗎？

@Cautious-Question606

Free market baby, thats what US has been touting for it

自由市場萬歲，這不就是美國一直在吹捧的玩意兒麼

@bangbangIshotmyself

Exactly. It would be amazing for our evolution as a nation.

We could allow China to build all these things and but then for cheap. That way Americans can spend much more money on other things.

Also, it would allow Americans to focus on other jobs that’s produce value in other ways instead of just being labor slaves

沒錯，這對我們國家的發展來説簡直太棒了！

我們可以讓中國來建造這些東西，而且價格還便宜。這樣一來，美國人就能把更多的錢花在其他地方了。

而且，這還能讓美國人專注於其他更能創造價值的工作，而不是整天當苦力。

@robinvangreenwood

incredible to think that the country that’s supposed to be the flagbearer of free market is US in this scenario.

真是讓人難以置信，在這種情況下，號稱自由市場旗手的居然是美國。

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@melvladimir

But this is not “actual” competition. It’s China VS other markets. It’s not the same. There are a lot of things behind final price

但這可不是真正的"公平競爭"。這是中國VS其他市場，完全不是一回事。最終價格背後藏着太多門道了。

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@rtb001

While you make some valid points, they wouldn’t apply to halo cars such the SU7 Ultra, which isn’t meant to be sold in large numbers.

雖然你説得有點道理，但這些觀點並不適用於像SU7 Ultra這樣的旗艦車型。這種車本來就不是走量的，主打的就是一個高端定位。

@danielv123

Apparently they expect to sell 10k of it this year, but I guess large numbers is relative

聽説他們今年打算賣1萬台，不過嘛，數量多少都是相對的

@davidsv

xiaomi just announced that they have got 10k orders in two hours!

小米剛剛宣佈，他們兩小時內就接到了1萬單！這也太猛了吧！

@danielv123

Not surprised

一點都不意外

@nuHAYven

I don’t know why this gets downvoted.

American car manufacturers benefit from things like direct loans during the bailout, massive subsidies of oil companies making gasoline cheaper, our free highway system, and underinvestment in alternative transport like intercity trains.

真不明白為什麼這帖子會被踩。美國的汽車製造商可是佔了不少便宜，比如救助計劃中的直接貸款、石油公司獲得的鉅額補貼讓汽油更便宜、免費的高速公路系統，還有對城際列車等替代交通方式投資不足，這些都在為他們提供幫助。